⚡️🔌 Total RV Power Protection | Surge Guard | Full Time RV
Articles,  Blog

⚡️🔌 Total RV Power Protection | Surge Guard | Full Time RV

– Today, we’re gonna talk about protecting your RV’s electrical equipment and electrical systems. – That’s right. And we’re doin’ a giveaway, so, stay tuned! ♪ Hey ♪ ♪ Hey ♪ (soft acoustic music) – Today, we’re gonna talk to you about protecting your RV’s
electrical components, like your ACs and your computers and TVs and the whole thing. – We’re also gonna tell you how you can enter to win this guy. – Yes, a $300 dollar value. So, stay tuned till the end so you can find out how to win. – Yes. – We get asked a lot
about surge protectors and that’s the term people are used to is a surge protector, right? And you wanna have that, but you wanna have a little bit more. There are two big players in
the surge protection industry that we’ve seen for RVs. There is Progressive
Industries and Southwire. Both make really great products. In fact, we had a
Progressive Industries EMS on our RV since day one. – I’m gonna stop here and just interject and let you guys know that I’m not here because I have a wealth of knowledge on electrical stuff. I’m here because I don’t, and because I have some questions, and we thought you might have the same
questions as I have. – Mm-hmm. – So, I’m gonna ask some
questions as we go through. These are not written down or anything. These are just things that
randomly pop into my head. So, some of them might be stupid. – No such thing as a stupid question when it comes to RVs.
– Right. – But I want to say when
we first started talking about the Surge Guard and
total protection and all that, I got confused because,
like you just said, there are a couple different companies that make similar products, but they have different names. So EMS, total surge protection. – Mm-hmm. – Those two are basically
the same thing, right? – Right, and to be honest with you guys, I’ve been guilty of calling
all total protection systems an EMS, and that’s really not accurate. EMS stands for, I think,
Electrical Management System. – Yeah. – That is what Progressive Industries calls their total protection system. They call it EMS.
– Mm-hmm. – And there’s also Southwire. Southwire makes surge protectors and they make a thing called
total electrical protection. So, we’re gonna talk a little
bit about a surge protector and something that protects
more than just surge. Both companies make both. Both companies also make
internal and external units. So, we’re gonna talk a
little bit about those. – Okay, yeah. – It should be noted that
everything we’re gonna talk about in regards to surge protectors and total electrical protection and EMS applies to both 50 and 30-amp RVs. – Right. – The devices we’re gonna talk about are available in both
30 and 50-amp models. However, our giveaway is just 50-amp. – Right. – So, if you have a 30-amp RV, sorry. We have this one to give
away, and it’s 50-amp. I spent quite a long time
working on electronics in the navy, on aircraft, E-2C Hawkeyes, and I’m very familiar
with electrical systems. First of all, you wanna have
at least a surge protector. That’s the bare minimum. If you’re looking online and
you see something like this, that looks just like this, but it’s around $100 bucks or less, it’s probably just a surge protector. – Okay, so please tell
me, because I don’t know, what just a basic surge
protector will protect you from? – Surges. – Okay
(laughing) – And that’s really it, and
therein lies the problem, because you do wanna be
protected against surges. If you live in a house or wherever, you might have surges
from your power grid, you might have surges
from storms or whatever, and you wanna be protected against that because that surge of electricity
going through your system can burn out components
just with high current. (loud crashing) But in an RV, we take these
really nice houses on wheels. – You spend a lot of
money on this investment. – And we take them to RV
parks and we just plug it in and just assume it’s good. It’s probably not. (laughing) You know, a lot of these
RV parks are really old. Some are new and just fine. Some are really old. – [Tara] You don’t know if
that giant Prevost next to you has three ACs running and a jacuzzi and I don’t know.
– Yeah. – Movie theater.
– Sun lamps, movie theater. – They’re drivin’ a whole bunch of current and it’ll mess you up. My point is you’re plugged
into a very tight grid when you’re in this line of RVs and two or three RVs kick
on the right AC in a row, you can get a low voltage scenario. Or you can get a low voltage scenario just because it’s crappy power. You never know. And low voltage is the number one killer of RV AC compressors. – [Tara] And you don’t
want that to happen. – [Chad] No. – We do get a lot of questions asked of us about surge protection and
what’s the best type to use, what should somebody get. – Mm-hmm. A lot of people see our videos, too, and when we’re outside
and they see our hookups, they ask why we don’t
have a surge protector because they’re used to
seeing ones like this, and the answer is we did and we do have more than a surge protector. For our first about year, or so. Well, probably a little over a year, we had the. – Progressive Industries EMS. (laughing) – We had the Progressive Industries EMS. We had the HW50C, the internal one. We had that surge
protector for about a year, almost a year and a
half, maybe, and it died. They did send us a new
one and we gave that away. – Yeah.
– At a recent rally. – There was no fault with it. – No.
– It was just. – It did its job.
– Yeah. – It’s designed to sacrifice
itself for your RV. And right around that time, our good friends, Eric
and Tami reached out from TechnoRV to see
if we would like to do a review on the Southwire models. I had talked to him about it before. I said, well, we’ve got one and I don’t want to
just be swapping it out just to swap it out. – Yeah, but when they recommend
a product to us to try. – Yeah. – It’s usually a really good product, so. – So, Eric sent us this to try out. This is the internal unit, and looking at the specs
between the Southwire units and the Progressive Industries units, they were very close. They’re both very good products. Southwire has a little bit of an edge on some of the specs. You know, talkin’ about
joules and stuff, and surge. It’s a tiny little bit of an edge on the specs, and I
think a little bit bigger of an edge on its display. – I wanna know what a joule is. It’s not jewels. (laughing) – There’s a lot of math
and complex crap behind it. Just know that a joule is essentially a measurement of energy. – Okay. – That’s how much current power these things can handle without dying. – Okay.
– Yeah. – I like the display for
the Southwire a lot better because I can see both
lines, amperage and voltage all in one display versus
having a rolling display, which the Progressive Industries had. Now, if you already have
the Progressive Industries, it’s a great unit, don’t
go swappin’ it out. It’s just, we like this
one a tiny bit better now. So, let’s talk a little
bit about surge protection versus more than surge protection. A total protection system, or an EMS, is going to protect you
from a lot of other things. Namely, low voltage. – Makes sense
– That’ll kill your AC. – And ACs are important. – Yeah. – We’re not campers, here. – They’re not cheap, either, to fix, so. – So, low voltage.
– Okay. – Under over frequency,
meaning that the 60 hertz that you’re expecting is high or low. – Okay. – A good EMS or total surge protection will protect against out of range on both frequency and voltage. It’ll protect against things
like reverse polarity. Like if the pedestal
that you’re plugging into is somehow reversed and it’s all jacked. It’ll protect against a miswired pedestal. It will protect against an
open ground or open neutral. That can be dangerous. If you got your RV plugged into a pedestal and it doesn’t have a good ground, then that means you can become the ground. – Mm-hmm. – Meaning it’s wet out,
you reach for your RV, and all of a sudden,
you’re the ground circuit. Basic electricity, if
your system isn’t grounded and you become the ground,
it’s a bad day for you. – Yes. So, bottom line is that
a lot more can happen than just surges. – Yeah, absolutely.
– Okay. – So, what happens when you
get one of those conditions. Well, this guy’s whole
job is to say (spits). Go away, shut off. So, in other words, if it detects
an out of bounds condition like low frequency or low voltage, it’s going to shut off
power to your whole RV, which is what you want. Your RV does better if power just (spits). It just shuts off, turns everything off versus trying to struggle
and run your compressor on low voltage. – That’s what happened to us. – Yeah, we’ve had it a couple of times. Ideally, it does that in a way that it can recover from, and we’ve had that happen multiple times.
– Yeah. – Power just shuts off, I
look on the EMS controller and it’ll say low voltage
or out of range frequency or something like that.
– Mm-hmm. – And it has a time out in
128 seconds, I think, later. It’ll check your connection
and see if it’s still good or if it has recovered and
turn everything back on. – But if we didn’t have
something like this, then the likelihood of damaging our ACs or something else in the
RV would be a lot higher. – Absolutely. And the reason there is
that delay put in there is because air conditioning
compressors don’t like to be shut off and come back on. So, we’re gonna be doing a video on power management for RVs and we’re gonna talk about
50-amp, versus 30-am, verus 15, versus
split-30, versus split-15, versus inverting, versus power share. – I don’t know if I’m gonna
be in that video or not. – We’re gonna get into all of that stuff because it’s confusing and it was confusing for
us before we started, but this is strictly about… – Confusing for me. – Protecting your RV,
but stay tuned for that. – Keep watching, cause
the giveaway’s comin’ up. You don’t know where in this video the giveaway information’s gonna be. – Yeah. – Just had to say that. (chuckling) – So, let’s talk a little bit
about the two different kinds. The internal and external. If you’re like me and you don’t like something this expensive and this nice just hanging outside on the pole, and you don’t wanna have to worry about one more thing to hook
up and locking it up. That’s just me, it’s not that big a deal. I make it sound like it’s a huge pain, but a lot of people do it. We got one right over
there at our neighbors. And if you’re not into AC wiring or you don’t know somebody who is, and you don’t mind having an
external one, just get this. It’s super simple. There’s no wiring involved. You plug it into the pedestal
and you plug your cable into it and that’s it.
– Simple. – Now, one thing that’s really cool about the Surge Guard models
that the Progressive Industries does not have is these pedestal units. You can get an optional wireless remote. – Oh! – So that you can see what’s
going on inside your RV without having to slip outside
and look at the control panel and see.
– That’s cool. – Yeah, and that’s a huge benefit. That’s one of the reasons
we wanted an internal in the beginning, was, I like being able to see it inside, but wiring an RV is a pain in the (bleeps). – Oh my gosh, yeah! (laughing) – So, we’re giving away this unit. It does not come with the remote display, but you can order that on your own. You don’t need the remote
display for it to operate. You can see it’s got a
display on it right there. Another benefit of this type of unit, a plug-in external unit,
is that if it dies, it’s easy to take out of a loop. You just unplug it and plug your line in. So, like in the situation that we were in where our EMS died and we didn’t have a
replacement right away, I had to get down in the basement and do some rewiring to bypass our EMS. It wasn’t difficult, but
if was much more difficult than just unplugging this.
– But don’t you think. – It would be more difficult
if somebody didn’t have the electrical background that you have? – Yes. Yes, again, that’s why I say
if you’re not comfortable with wiring electricity,
get an external unit. If you are comfortable
with wiring and electricity and all that entails, than a unit like this is great. To dispel any fears
about the wiring of this, it’s four wires. It’s really not that difficult, and they’re all color-coded. You’ve got two hots, a
neutral, and a ground. – [Tara] But you’re gonna
show ’em how you installed it. – That’s right, I did record that. For the full install video, be sure to go to our
website, changinglanesrv.com. We will have a link in the description. Internal units, whether
its this Surge Guard, or whether it’s Progressive Industries, we hope you get the Surge Guard. We’ll have links below for TechnoRV, and it’s really not that difficult. You’ve got a cable on
the outside of your RV where your power goes in. Behind there is a wire, and
that wire goes somewhere. Usually, it’s gonna go to an ATS, which is the automatic transfer switch if you have a generator. Or it might go straight to
your distribution panel, and it’s really just a
matter of disconnecting wherever that goes to,
plugging it into here, and then getting another
cable to go from here out to wherever that went before. It’s just putting this thing in the line right behind your power plug. Doesn’t really get much simpler than… – Again, though, it’s
simpler for you, babe. – Yeah.
– Because. – You know what you’re doing. It’s very basic to you, but
it’s not basic to everybody. – That’s true. Quite honestly, the most
difficult part of wiring this for us was getting the wires up here for the control panel. – Oh yeah. – If you watched our inverter video, there are a few things we got in our little tech cabinet up here. We’ve got our inverter
control panel, which is wired. We’ve got our EMS, or Surge
Guard protection system control panel, which
is a wired connection. Our battery monitor is a wired connection, and getting the wires from
the basement to that panel is a huge pain. (thumping) Well.
(beeping) Well, my plan A is taken a (bleeps). (bleeping) I can’t emphasize how much I could’ve used maybe just a little bit more
room in their grand design into where the wiring goes. It’s tight!
– Yeah. – And I worked out a way to do it, but… – But now you have a system.
– Yeah. – You’ll have to figure
that one out on your own or just get the external unit with the wireless control panel, cause there’s no wiring. – Like I said. Not everybody knows how
to do the wiring part. – Yeah The other thing that we do get asked about every now and then when we’re
talking about surge protection and things like that is a
thing called a autoformer. Hughes Electric makes a
thing called a autoformer. I think there might be a couple of others, but Hughes is probably the most popular. The whole idea behind an autoformer is it will do some little
magic on electronics and turn current into voltage. It basically uses that to
keep your voltage the same, even if it’s low, which is a great idea, but it does that by using extra current, and that can affect the
overall electrical system of an RV park. (soft acoustic music) Be sure to watch till the end so you can see us mess up in our outtakes. – Mm-hmm. You guys know we do it a lot. – Mm-hmm. – All right, you guys, ready to find out how you can win your Surge Guard? – [Chad] A quick note about our giveaway. This is a 50-amp model.
– Mm-hmm. – All we have is a 50-amp model. – Sorry if you have a, sorry if you need a 30-amp. We don’t have that.
– Yeah. – But, you can still enter to win it, and if you win it, we’ll
send it to you with Koozies and stuff, and you can give
it to somebody you know who has a 50-amp RV. – That’s right. – Thank you to Eric and Tami. – Yeah, you guys are awesome. – TechnoRV, for donating
this to our viewers for this giveaway.
– Yes. – [Tara] There are three
ways to enter the giveaway. First, you can follow us on Instagram and then comment on today’s
post, hashtag #giveaway. You can also comment on
this video in YouTube. Comment hashtag #giveaway, and you can follow us
on Facebook and comment on today’s post, hashtag #giveaway. (soft acoustic music) You will have seven days from today, the day that this video airs, to enter. – Mm-hmm. All the details will be
in the description below or in the blog post if you’re
watching this on our website. – Good luck to everyone
who enters the giveaway and don’t forget to tell
your friends to do the same. – By the way, we’ll put a couple Koozies and a sticker or two in here, also. – Ooh! Don’t forget to subscribe
and like this video. – Outtakes. – There was a lot of. – This isn’t an outtake, but here’s Daisy. – For those of you who
have missed seeing Daisy in this video, here you go! – Look at the camera, Daisy. Look at the camera. – Uh oh! (laughing) I hope that’s on video. – After you’re done. – Is it coming out yet? – What? – I’m just kidding. (laughing) – I was waiting for
you to stop doing this. – I trimmed my neck. – Like the Godfather. – I trimmed my neck hair for you guys. – Like the Godfather. – All right. – Let’s do this. We can do it. We’ve got, did I get lipstick on there? – Did you kiss it? (chuckling) It comes with a kiss from Tara. Right here. – I don’t know how that happened. What are you doing? Why are you being creepy?
(laughing) Ooh! – Sneaking up. – Trick or treat! Trick or treat! Okay, let’s be, let’s just be real now. (laughing) Okay, you ready? – Surge Guard. Nope.
– Nope. (laughing) – Even I knew that was wrong. – Yeah, I spent quite a long
time working on electrical, electrica. – Like movie theaters and
tanning, I don’t know. (laughing) Tanning, does anybody use
a tanning bed anymore? – Yeah, lots of RVs with tanning beds.
– Oh my gosh. – Tanning bed rooms. – Okay, what’s next? Ooh. – What? – Arnold Palmer on freshly brushed teeth. – Oh. So yeah, we’ve had, we had. (spitting) Tried to get our Instagram
account up over a thousand. – No. 10 thousand. (chuckling) – Tell ’em how to win. – I don’t know. (chuckling) and thank you, again, to Tara. – You’re Tara. – Thanks, Tara. (chuckling) I just froze. I just felt like Jan Brady
who stared at the camera. (chuckling) – Oh, I forgot about that one. – I know. I’m like, ah! Red light! – [Chad] How’d you get so cute,
why you lookin’ over there? Why you lookin’ over there? Camera’s right here. Camera’s right here. Daisy, you stink at YouTube.


Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *